SocialLearn session: OU's Learning & Tech Conf. 2010

SocialLearn is designing a social learning space which can integrate existing tools in the OU and the cloud, to support learning

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14 March 2010

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Welcome to our cloud for this conference session :-) from the SocialLearn team: Simon Buckingham Shum, Rebecca Ferguson, Mark Glaister, Thanh Le 

SocialLearn (part of the portfolio under Denise Kirkpatrick, Pro-Vice Chancellor for Learning & Teaching Quality) is designing a social learning space which can integrate existing tools in the OU and the cloud, to support learning. Our immediate target groups are the hundreds of thousands of users in the Open University’s online communities, with a specific focus in the coming year on professional development and e-scholarship/research.

SocialLearn beta site | blog | twitter | slideshare

Post your comments here... or to make up for the absence of f-f discussion, feel free to call me (Simon) during the conference after this session on 01908 655723 or Skype on sbskmi

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Social Software approaches to addessing issues of Accessibility

Martyn Cooper is co-ordinating discussions on Social Software approaches to addessing issues of Accessibility for disabled people.

[Note this is distinct from issues of accesibility in social software.  Chetz Colwell is undertaking work on accessibility issues in SocialLearn for instance.]

So far included in the discussions are Doug Clow and Nick Freear.  If anyone else is interested please contact Martyn Cooper (mailto:m.cooper@open.ac.uk).

A cloud with further information will be created soon.

Martyn Cooper
15:23 on 14 March 2010

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1:53pm 22 June 2010 (Edited 2:21pm 22 June 2010)


Here below transcript of the Elluminate chat going on during Simon Bukingham Shum's presentation on SocialLearn at OU's Learning & Tech Conf. 2010

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Nick Freear: http://slideshare.net/SocialLearn/social-learn-learningopenworld2010
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Moderator (Iris Wunder): Thanks Nick  
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Nick Freear: Yay. Simon's mentioning iSpot.
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Doug Clow: iSpot is great! And I'll be talking about it tomorrow  
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FranciscoAlvarez: yes, Mira, the idea of paternal libertarianism could be a nice idea on learning. other insterest book about is  Sunstein et al. : Nudges
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Nick Freear: plug, plug
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Bieke Schreurs OUNL: thanks
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AJCann: Having to dip in and out today, very busy.
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Moderator (Simon Buckingham Shum): Chris Blackmore (2010). (Ed.) Social Learning Systems and Communities of Practice. Springer. http://bit.ly/dcDC4y
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle:
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Tim Hunt: I'm sure I have seen that slide in a Martin Dougiamas keynote  
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Mira Vogel: I narrow my eyes at paternal libertarianism (while using it myself all over our VLE)
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FranciscoAlvarez: Sure, Mira  
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AJCann: Sigh. Wish I could get funding for not building stuff    (exactly the right approach).
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Doug Clow: @AJCann It's easy to not get funded to not build stuff - there are loads of grants I don't have to not build stuff  
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Moderator (Karen Cropper): Has anyone noticed the SocialLearn 'gadget' that we have added to the conference clouds - hot off the press added yesterday.  What do you think?
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Karen: I like the basic idea, but it seems over-dominant size-wise in my browser.  Some presentation tweaks needed possibly.
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AJCann: Silos, as popular as budgets.
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Wendy Maples: Hmm, lost you again
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Darn it.  Twitter's borking and not accepting tweets.
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Moderator (Elke): can you not hear Wendy?
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FranciscoAlvarez: Yes, I have notice the gadget, very nice but at my page it appears TWICE
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Moderator (Elke): Wendy - just checked - ist is your connection
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Moderator (Elke): should be ok now Wendy?
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Question: Is the "new" SocialLearn basically like NetVibes or PageFlakes, i.e. a web start page?
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markuos: or a portal?
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Giota Alevizou: Simon your mic sounds funny now
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Or is the base unit a gadget and it's just that the SocialLearn site acts like a portal/corkboard for organizing your own gadgets in one place, but they can also be embedded in other places, like has been done on Cloudworks?
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Does that mean we can embed SocialLearn gadgets inside things like Google Desktop, Pageflakes or Netvibes because they're really just "widgets" by a different name?
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sgardner: Fantastic, started working like this a little with iGoogle, but this is MUCH better. When can I get gadgets  
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markuos: This is really interesting
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FranciscoAlvarez: It´s really exciting and futurist
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Giota Alevizou: How does cohere link to this?
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CliveYoung: Very impressed
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fredgarnett: How do you define "crowd" in wisdom of the crowds?
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markuos: Can this be a front end to allow learners to navigate the sea of OER?
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Moderator (Iris Wunder): Michelle, has your question been answered regarding the embedding?
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Mira Vogel: Worth mentioning the age-old argument: are your contacts a good way of filtering the web? How to keep open to disruptive intrusions?
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Thanh Le: In sociallearn speak, gadgets can be embedded on sociallearn sites, on partner sites (those willing to put a snippet of code on it) or ony site if the user chooses to enable them through a sociallearn toolbar they take with them.
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Iris: I'm not sure if I'm understanding yet, but let's see what happens.
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Moderator (Iris Wunder): O.k.
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fredgarnett: Great architecture, but I always have a problem when the educational institition owns the definition of learning
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fredgarnett: Thanks Simon great slides
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Nick Freear: Thanks Simon - always interesting!
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ian wright: is it "sociallearn" or "SocialLearn"?
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Moderator (Karen Cropper): Charles Severance was with us as an Olnet Fellow and did some really interesting things plugging in Cohere to VLE see: http://olnet.org/node/396 and next step he is thinking may be plugging in to SocialLearn
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FranciscoAlvarez: The question is not monolythic, there are several plural ways to obtain knowledge. There is not the real way to knowledge. So sociallearn is driving in the right way
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markuos: Excellent - thanks Simon
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Ale Okada: great!
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IsaacParlay: Here here - great presentation Simon
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Moderator (Simon Buckingham Shum): SocialLearn >>> beta site: http://sociallearn.org
SocialLearn slides as PDF/PPTX if you want a local copy: http://bit.ly/caGvIr
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Steven Verjans (OUNL): That was a 1.5 speed presentation
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Paul Richardson: It's your take on the Personal Learning Environment. Is that right?
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markuos: I haven't got a mic
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: I hate talking.  :-P  My question was whether "gadgets" were just basically widgets and we could embed them in various web sites, like Netvibes, Google Desktop, etc.
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Lyubov: Thanks, that's great! I am sure I understood everything, but looks inspiring! 
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Will Woods: Yes why OU tools not generic tools?
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Moderator (Karen Cropper): Issues of interoperability
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: The "new" SocialLearn site looks a lot like a corkboard where you can add various widgets, similar to those existing web start pages.
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Helen Whitehead: What if we end up with as many apps/gadgets as we have social networks and then we need a recommender for the apps!
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fredgarnett: My question was on the definition of the crowd in the wisdom of crowds we acsess in the service model?
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Juliette Culver: there are various different flavours of widget e.g. Google gadgets, W3C widgets etc. SocialLearn has gone for Google gadgets
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markuos: no mic this end
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Me: @Giota; Cohere as Collective Intelligence tool will be developed as widgets/gadget, so it may be added to the Sociallearn gatgets available for learners. Cohere widgets will support in particular public inquiry and collective intelligence building and exploration.
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Steven Verjans (OUNL): What is the role of sociallearn then? Collect data across platforms?
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Kamakshi Rajagopal OUNL: what kind of information do you collect for users' profiles, as for recommendation you will need more extensive information?
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markuos: no not a repository - but recommendations of OERs
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Helen Whitehead: Link for Cohere please?
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: http://cohere.open.ac.uk/
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Giota Alevizou: @Anna thanks
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markuos: right
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Helen Whitehead: Thanks Michelle
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Me: Great presentation Simon! Thanks!
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markuos: right got you
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Helen Whitehead: Doesn't Cloudworks do some of that?
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Thanh Le: SocialLearn has been exploring the integration with social networks (facebook, etc.) to acuire profile data without the user having to maintain another profile.
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: Where's the "social" aspect now?  We saw a lot about aggregation, but I think I missed the social aspect.  There was something about mentors and groups.  Can you expand on that?
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Will Woods: Good talk - recommendation logic difficult to do well, easy to do badly
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ian wright: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/mental_health/article7096165.ece
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AJCann: @ Michelle Crowdsourcing is social.
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Giota Alevizou: Is there any research with existing learners on social learn?
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: @Ajcann: It is, but I guess it's not… personal, which is what I think of when I think of social.
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AJCann: @Michelle - should be personal if it works, tailored to your interests.
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fredgarnett: @Giota, we did some research on how people learnt in Uk online centres which modelled informal and non-formal learning some years ago. It identified the social "lifecycles" of the learning centre & communities
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Mira Vogel: @ian wright - yeah we should think about attention.
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Helen Whitehead: Personal and social are not mutually exclusive, more complementary
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Giota Alevizou: @fredgarnett @SIMON thanks, that's really helpful
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markuos: Thanks Simon
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Michelle "Eingang" Hoyle: @Helen: I should have said that I think of personal as being a key characteristic of social.  You're right that they're not mutually exclusive and I didn't mean to suggest they were.
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Caroline Warburton: Sorry, I have to go now.  Many thanks for an interesting day so far and I hope to join you for tomorrow's sessions
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Doug Clow: Notes from Simon's talk here http://cloudworks.ac.uk/cloud/view/2974
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Paul Richardson: Thanks. Fascinating
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fredgarnett: @giota, we built an interactive centre to doem what we had learnt http://www.intomedia.org.uk/silwood/BECTA_DEMO.HTM
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Moderator (Iris Wunder): Thank you Caroline  
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fredgarnett: Thank you Simon

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