The VLE is Dead
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27 August 2009
ALT-C 2009 Session: This Cloud has been set up to aggregate live blogs, comments, discussion and links for this session.
I'm going to have a go at recording this live:
Steve up first with VLEs not fit for purpose argument.
Steve starts off in non-controversial mode: E in elearning stands for 'evil' and VLE is the great satan.
VLE is funnel type learning, quotes Illych. VLE homogonises content - one size does not fit all. The VLE is owned by institution - not by students, and learners need to own tools. Not very good at discursive style learning. Does a VLE make economic sense when you can get free tools? Tools need to be agile, and VLEs are cumbersome.
13:43 on 8 September 2009
Now Graham Attwell is up, talking about PLEs. Technology is shaped by people, will look at how we got to the VLE situation (and how we can get out of it).
Talks about industrialisation of education, schools were made to be like factories. Argues that school system is now dysfunctional. Technology that came in and was then based on paradigm of existing (broken) model of education. We got take-off of education during the web which was also the period of managerialism (outputs, targets, throughput, etc). VLE comes out of this era, to manage learning (not to promote learning/exploration, etc).
Show of hands - who uses VLE when they want to learn something (1 hand). Who uses Google? (everyone). So why do we force this technology on students.
Changes now - social media - shaped by learners, overcomes the divide between the environment and learning. PLE represents an opportunity to overcome this divide.
(It's like a militant rally here!)
13:48 on 8 September 2009
James Clay up now - says everyone has been saying the VLE is dead for ages. Uses Graham's poll agains him - who uses lectures at their university? Who goes to a lecture to learn anything?
Makes argument that only 2% of population are signed up to Facebook, and that Google generation is a myth. Says VLE provides guidance and framework. Allows learners who are wary and cautious to have a safe way in (and also educators). The reality is that many ed tech people don't use these technologies.
Does quick survey - who blogs three times a week or sends a video to YouTube once a week? (not many but his rate is quite high I think).
13:52 on 8 September 2009
Nick Sharratt - Defending VLE - students aren't pushing for it. They don't expect innovation from their universities, but do want robustness and quality. So why do we want to get rid of it? Maybe because some people feel shackled, or like to play with new things. Frustration with VLE may be misplaced problems from elsewhere eg you aren't being supported well enough.
Could end up with Heath Robinson site where everything looks messy. Also social media sites are number one target for attacks. VLE provides safe haven.
VLE is necessary, and if we see shortcomings then it's up to us to build that future.
13:59 on 8 September 2009
Discussion is underway on the topic, waiting for the symposium ‘VLE is (not) dead’, hosted by the University of Wolverhampton, City Campus, 16th December 2009.
To join in the pre-event discussions on Twitter use #vleundead.
This cloud will host resources and links to blog posts as soon as materials will be available.
21:14 on 11 December 2009