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Tina Wilson
10:17am 27 February 2009


Overview of event has just be given Li Yuan. CETIS role now being explained by Sheila MacNeill.

Tina Wilson
10:19am 27 February 2009


Working groups to complement the SIGS

Tina Wilson
10:21am 27 February 2009


Working group looking at use of widgets and another working group focusing on cloud computing.

 

Would like to set up an OER working group.

 

Links available on CETIS website

Tina Wilson
10:30am 27 February 2009


Andy Lane

 

'The institutional impact of OpenLearn for the OU'.

 

OER need to be taken seriously.

 

OU followed momentum of OER development with Hewlett funding.

 

OER fit with mission of OU and chance to look at elearning and to conduct research in this area.

 

A chance to draw in content from other providers and promote worldwide collaborations.

 

 

 

Tina Wilson
10:38am 27 February 2009


Andy Lane 2

 

Lots of different types of assets used in OpenLearn

 

End Jan 09 3.7 million visitors from 220 countries.

 

People using content where it is. Some people adding to the content - compendium maps, posts etc Sussex Learning Network have used the LabSpace.

 

 

Tina Wilson
10:39am 27 February 2009


The right format is the one the user wants to use whether that be OUXML or one of the other available formats.

Tina Wilson
10:42am 27 February 2009


Andy Lane 4

 

Different types of user behaviour - FM, compendium downloads, forum posts, learning journal, 10'000 units printed etc.

Sheila MacNeill
10:51am 27 February 2009


Openlearn seems to have had an impact on course registration and it has doubled the Uni's web presence

Sheila MacNeill
10:52am 27 February 2009


9,000 people have registered on a course during the same session as looking at OpenLearn

Tina Wilson
10:53am 27 February 2009


Andy Lane 5

 

Supporting Widening Participation - OpenLearn accessible to those who cannot easily access education.

 

International partnerships some have been research led.

 

Engaging with Business and the community

 

Helps students to make course choices -students can try out course materials

 

Increased enquiries about courses as a result of OpenLearn - 9000+ registrations

 

Has increased visibility of the OU and attracted awards. 

 

 

Sheila MacNeill
10:55am 27 February 2009


as well as content, people do want a relationship with the University and/or other users. OpenLearn trying to assess success through tangible benefits which align with the aims/objectives of the University.  OER needs to align with longer term activities as well as the day to day ones

Sheila MacNeill
10:56am 27 February 2009


Sustainability - now looking at how to embed lessons from OpenLearn.  Need to look at new business models

Tina Wilson
10:56am 27 February 2009


Andy Lane 6 - conclusions

 

OER attract people, people want a relationship, OER work needs to align with day to day and longer term activities, need to look for more business models - advertising, value added services, disagregated services

Sheila MacNeill
10:57am 27 February 2009


No accreditation for openlearn courses at the moment - but you can use it for evidence of prior learning in some circumstances.  

Sheila MacNeill
11:04am 27 February 2009


c3k to produce an hours worth of content - typically. But repurposing existing material much cheaper. Long term creating content for open learn will be part of their natural production cycle.

Sheila MacNeill
11:13am 27 February 2009


Patrick explaining the rationale for the type of CC licence OpenLearn has gone with - and telling us to let our minds be blown a bit.

Tina Wilson
11:15am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew

 

'Learning from OpenLearn'

 

Various stages or issues including copyright - Creative commons licence was not too expensive.

Change of attitudes - see OER as a way to start to share content

 

4 million users, won awards, developed technology etc

 

Chris Douce
11:16am 27 February 2009


General question: what will be the extent that external contributions may inspire the development or enhancement of existing courses that are run by an institution? Will there be or could there be a process to assess the significance of external contributions to OER resources?

Sheila MacNeill
11:17am 27 February 2009


they have tried to look at OER in terms of students and making access to content as easy as possible. Seeing the world as "your learner" has been key to the project.

Tina Wilson
11:18am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew 2

 

It was good to have a LearningSpace and a Labspace where the material was available without having to log in.

 

Other projects such as OUNL are getting into accreditation. 

Sheila MacNeill
11:20am 27 February 2009


getting stuff out there is key - it is easy to get hung up on creating the perfect resource. It is more important to concentrate on allowing easy access.

Tina Wilson
11:20am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew 3

 

Important to improve the experience for the learner

 

Some users are interested in the social network connected to Openlearn others to the content.

David Kernohan
11:21am 27 February 2009


The "piloty" nature of OpenLearn really coming across today - it's heartening to see how many unknowns that the OU had (and still have) in planning this project!

Tina Wilson
11:22am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew 4

 

Trust your users - in openlearn it has not been misplaced.

Tina Wilson
11:24am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew 5

 

Not much evidence of taking our content away and reworking it.

 

 

Tina Wilson
11:25am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew 6

 

lots of people with good intentions but a lack of time is a big barrier.

Tina Wilson
11:26am 27 February 2009


Patrick Mc Andrew 7

 

OLnet Open learning network officially starting 1st March.

Andreia Inamorato Dos Santos
11:27am 27 February 2009


 Patrick McAndrew 5:

 

Time is an issue in developing OERs. Users have good intentions

but very often are too busy to dedicate time for developing materials and 

reusing existing ones. 

 

Tina Wilson
11:42am 27 February 2009


Sarah Darley

 

POCKET project

 

6 whole modules into self contained OER units

 

Used OU XML schema

 

Encouraged users to use learning journal, forums etc

David Kernohan
11:58am 27 February 2009


Russell Stanard speaking now - very much a grass roots OER approach but with high visibility and a good user rate. Loath to use the term #edupunk here but it can be argued...

Tina Wilson
12:09pm 27 February 2009


Russell Stannard

 

Writes an artile called web watcher in English Teaching Professional.

 

Has developed a set of training video sequences for using different technologies for readers of the magazine and then for students. 

 

Changed the way that he teaches as can now do so much more hands on work rather than teaching the students how to use Director etc.

 

Numbers of students applying to do the course seems to have increased as a result of how the video sequences have been received on the Internet

Tina Wilson
12:16pm 27 February 2009


Individual approaches are very different to the OpenLearn approach

Tina Wilson
12:18pm 27 February 2009


CClearn useful to check out

Tina Wilson
12:20pm 27 February 2009


Simple approaches can work well for reuse of OER

Sheila MacNeill
1:15pm 27 February 2009


now presentation about the lessons learned from the RePRODUCE project about re-using content

Sheila MacNeill
1:29pm 27 February 2009


although templates provided for licences -people still a bit unsure about how to personalise them 

Tina Wilson
1:31pm 27 February 2009


Casper project Liam Earney, Heather Williams

 

Advice and best practice

 

IPR a major issue

 

Help and guidance very helpful

 

Need a level of institutional support

 

Difficult to get permission to reuse material from other universities. Only 14% found this task easy.

 

An absence of clear rights statements or common accepted terminology

 

The type of rights being sought affects whether permission is given.

 

It can take between 10 hours and a number of months to receive clearance. 

 

 

Sheila MacNeill
1:34pm 27 February 2009


what projects want from JISC re IPR/copyright - for JISC to do it for them

Tina Wilson
1:37pm 27 February 2009


Casper project Liam Earney, Heather Williams

 

'Sustainability - how does one develop the communities of users around these resources that will keep them up to date, available and used'.

Sheila MacNeill
1:37pm 27 February 2009


Need a critical mass of content for any number of ordinary academics to engage with OER

Sheila MacNeill
1:44pm 27 February 2009


Common misconceptions surrounding CC - lots of people assume that CC means completely open and don't understand the different flavours of CC

 

Tina Wilson
1:53pm 27 February 2009


Amber Thomas

 

It is not easy to use a template or a work flow for IPR

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